This also happened to my Ricoh GR II.
I shot for 4 years on my GR II. It developed the shutter problem you mentioned on year 3 along with a myriad of other problems like a closed lens while camera was one. I had to give it a good love tap to get it to open.
I shot thousands and thousands of photos with the thing and dropped it many times, so I chalked it up to just being an old and very used camera.
In December on a layover in China, the camera opened up, froze and died. I could not get it to turn off, close, nothing. It was a brick. I had a 2 week bike packing trip ahead of me through Northern Thailand so I pulled my SD card and left my old friend on a chair in the airport not wanting to carry the extra dead weight.
I just picked up the Fuji XF10 and although it lacks some functions I seriously miss, I’ve been able to find work arounds.
Every day I go back and forth about returning the XF10 and getting another GRII. Its been an internal battle. The GRIII does not interest me due to lack of flash. And the higher Mega pixels of the XF10 vs the GRII have proven to be incredibly useful in low light. The XF10 seriously performs at 3200 in color in a way the GR never could.
The biggest hindrance with the XF10 is the lack of snap focus choices. But I have found a quick way to go in and out of manual focus mode to expand it.
The GRII felt like an extension of my eye and mind. The XF10 I still grapple with. Although i’ve only had it for 2 days.
I really love your work so I’m curious to your thoughts on the XF10.
Assuming you have time for a reply and assuming you have played with it.
Hello Topher, thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts about the cameras!
I can imagine the scene with your GR opening its protective lens cover one last time to watch you leave ;| At the time my 2nd body died of the closed shutter problem I started having less symphatic feelings for Ricoh. I understand that moving camera parts inside a retractive lens modules wear out over time. But for a new GR2 around 500 USD I expect it to function way beyond 50K shots. Time will tell if the new GR3 module is made to last longer. My feeling is that it will be same as it used to be, ship it in for cleaning & repair. For new GR buyers I strongly recommend adding an extended 3-4 year warranty and have peace of malfunction mind.
Good to hear that the XF10 color noise performs well in ISO 3200. My GRII stayed always limited to 1600 ISO, delivering okay noise quality. The 50% higher megapixels count of the Fuji will definetly improve quality when post-cropping into the details. On the other hand I find digital zoom less desirable than optical, which in our fixed focal case is moving towards the subject physicaly.
For me the most important camera features are, a small & light body size, customization of controls and the speed of camera operation. When I go on a longer street-photo walk my camera is not always on. I dont have that many spare-batteries. When I notice a scene and want to capture it, the time to power-on, auto focus and screen-blackout-refresh must be as quickly as possible. The GR2 is fairly fast for all three times. From the specs. and from what I have read on user-forums the GR3 even improved. I am curious if the XF10 is head to head with regards to speed with the GR2 or even GR3.
I like that it has a non retractable lens design. In theory it should be ready to shoot immediatley but what about camera power-on time? (Thinking about it I would love to see a “standby” feature implemented in cameras oriented towards street-photography). However the lens extends out of the body while focusing, I thought it would focus internally like in the X100 series.
I have to admit I do not use the GRs Snap Focus feature very often. I like to shoot with AF because it ensures the best quality in sharpnes. When changing to the Zone Focus method I AF on a certain distance, switch to MF and increase the f-stop to expand the DoF. I guess this is the same way you are using the XF10 now. Does the front focus ring help you to change distances in a usable way? The manual focus implementaion on the GRs is a pita.
The lack of flash is sad. I like that the XF10 flash is not hidden by default like on the GR2. You could simply forget that it exists and it would not open by itself when necessary. Maybe its one of the reasons they removed it after all. The small Q20II flash seems to be a fun wireless addition but it totaly destroys the idea of compact.
Againg thanks for visiting and applause for the high quality cinematography you produce!
This happened to my Ricoh I the first time after 1,5 months after i bought it. After repairs i used the camera for 2,5 years after wich the same problem occured after about 100.000 shots
What kind of repair it was and how much it cost?
I used mine occasionally for around 18 months after Closed Shutter Problem appeared until today when it came to the last stage of its exiztense called lens not retracting (all is black, it turns on/off and that’s it). That’s with shutter count around 16 000. I searched for new solutions that maybe appeared in the last year, but nothing promising… So as there was nothing to loose I tried to push on/off and shutter buttons while hitting my camera harder and harder into my knee (there was nothing to loose anyway except to brake my knee) and voila… after some time it got back to Closed Shutter Problem which now is more like solution than a problem :D btw, at first it would turn on and show the first thing camera managed to see. It looked like if you’re just pressed „play“ and see last captured photo, but there was no photo captured. But after a few more on and offs it returned to old good Closed Shutter Problem. My expectations are low for it to last, but who knows – right now I’m so excited as for the last few hours I had to think do I need a new camera and which one to get?
Also happened to my GRII. It’s a shame that GR is premium p&s compact cam with low durability; and the cost to repairing it, is not worthed at all.
it also happend to my GR last week. shutter about 12600
Stuck lens and shutter problem also happened here a with my GR I bought new in late 2013… and now again with the GR II (bought new november 2017) with a shutter count of 21211. I guess they are about to last 3/4 years – which is kind of of short for a premium product.
Anybody had the same problem with the new GR III?
Thanks for sharing your count Stefan. For the GR III I guess we will have to wait a bit longer, as you said 3/4 years of occasional shooting. Hardcore photographers will reach a possible deadend much faster but they would have to report it. So far I have not read about it. Lets hope the new GR III lens design changed also whatever is causing the leafshutter to malfunction for the better.
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